Fixing the broken triangle

Roland just sent me a link to an interesting story about the interrelation of the netroots, the “traditional” media, and the political leadership: THE (Broken) TRIANGLE: Progressive Bloggers in the Wilderness [1]:

“This, then, is the reality: progressive bloggers and online activists – positioned on the front lines of a cold civil war – face a thankless and daunting task: battle the Bush administration and its legions of online and offline apologists, battle the so-called “liberal” media and its tireless weaving of pro-GOP narratives, battle the ineffectual Democratic leadership, and battle the demoralization and frustration that comes with a long, steep uphill struggle.”

More below the fold…

Peter Daou explains how, in his view, the three elements should work together to counter the right-wing noise machine, and how it’s failed to do so, using the spying scandal and the Alito nomination as examples.

My first response was to want to print this out, send it to my reps, and yell “Why aren’t you doing anything about this? You’re supposed to be representing your constituents!”

Aside from poking at our reps (which may or may not have much effect), what can we do about this problem? “More of the same” doesn’t look likely to work in the foreseeable future :-(.

Meanwhile, at least communities like this one help give us strength to keep going when the slope seems too steep :-).

10 comments

Tip jar (4.00 / 8)

by Morgan on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 13:21:41 PDT

would tip, but… (none / 0)

I cannot rate anyone on this thread, for whatever reason.

Consider yourself 4’ed.

by Betty Black on Fri Jan 13th, 2006 at 17:59:26 PDT

good questions (4.00 / 5)

I suspect that we here are doing some of what we need to be doing already. We’re expressing our most deeply held beliefs and ideas. The conservatives have managed through patience and persistence to change the way the media and politics operate, and they did it by asserting their ideas. Liberals, OTOH, have been reluctant to do the same until relatively recently. We don’t like to differentiate ourselves, we like to connect with others and try to see their points of view.

But now we’re beginning to realize that there is a third way: we can vigorously proclaim our ideas and beliefs without attacking those who think differently. If we can continue to do that with patience and persistence, then we can change things again–not change them back, but change them better.

by sunflight on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 13:37:52 PDT

It may be odd (4.00 / 5)

To take inspiration from the theocons, but they faced a similar challenge in trying to overcome the establishment conservatives, the old-line fiscal cons.  It took them a long time, but much of that fight happened before things like the internet made communicating so bloody easy.

We can do it…follow our dreams….Beefcake…BEEFCAAAAAAKE!

Taliesin Athor Govannon
HP, Coven of Caer Arianrhod
Taliesin’s Witchcraft Page

by Taliesin on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 13:38:31 PDT

did you notice… (none / 1)

we posted almost the same thought at the same time LOL

by sunflight on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 16:44:39 PDT

Great minds (none / 1)

think alike (though I may sully my candidacy for being a “great mind” with more South Park quotes!).

Blessed Be

Taliesin Athor Govannon
HP, Coven of Caer Arianrhod
Taliesin’s Witchcraft Page

by Taliesin on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 17:38:07 PDT

There are no netroots on the right (4.00 / 3)

only parrots and followers.  The triangle thing is the wrong metaphor.  

This article and various other analysis I’ve read puts the blame on the leadership for not leading.  But we are not like the right.  We’re not a bunch of followers.  The left cannot manage message discipline in a top down way and if that’s what it takes to win, we won’t.

But that’s not what it takes to win today.  The right’s ability to spin the world has faded immensely even in the last year.  I expect that fading to continue as the right’s credibility collapses further.

That leaves it up to us to formulate, articulate, and populate an alternative vision.  We’re the solution, the last person standing.

I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also was a chasing after wind.Ecclesiastes 1:17

by DanielMN on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 14:12:30 PDT

There’s a saying, (4.00 / 3)

“If the people lead, the leaders will follow.”

The netroots has been trying to lead for several years now, but many of the “leaders” just smile and wave and otherwise ignore us unless they’re asking for money. At least Dean knows we’re not just an online ATM.

IMO, YearlyKos is a good step, what with Reid speaking and things like the quilt project providing visibility.

by Morgan on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 14:44:13 PDT

Well, that’s is one view of things (3.66 / 3)

I’ve also seen various folks stumble on kos and get torn to shreds.  If I was running for anything I’d hesitate to engage the raving masses too.

I applied my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly. I perceived that this also was a chasing after wind.Ecclesiastes 1:17

by DanielMN on Thu Jan 12th, 2006 at 14:50:56 PDT

“If the people lead…” (none / 0)

I really believe that statement. As powerless as we all may feel by the circumstances we are living in, the answer lies within us. We just don’t recognize it yet. 🙂

I am That, you are That, all of this is That, and That is all there is.

by shakti on Sun Jan 15th, 2006 at 15:56:33 PDT


[1] Link originally went to http://daoureport.salon.com/synopsis.aspx?synopsisId=a7896c8a-6203-44ab-a83f-d53147b4d87c

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